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採訪陳果是在北太平莊的一個偏僻的錄音棚，他利用到北京拍攝《人民公廁》的間隙，為這部新片做旁白錄音。當陳果走到記者面前，很難把“香港新銳導演”的冠名，與眼前這個壯實的中年男子聯繫到一起。記者實話實說：“我原來以為你很年輕。”陳果聽後爽朗大笑，用標準國語答曰：“我是年輕呀，很多年前很年輕！”
內地新導演很幸運，他們從學校出來，包括第五代，不管出道環境多艱苦，但他們的年齡是和他們的處女作的感覺相當的。但在香港，像我這樣的“新導演”是在商業電影裏混了十多年才會出來。
我的電影是有力量的
記：大家認識你是因為《香港製造》，到後來的“回歸三部曲”，都是反映低層社會，怎麼會有這樣的主題選擇？
陳：香港雖然是物質文明高度發達的城市，其實那裏很多人還是生活在困苦的環境中。香港很多導演喜歡拍中產階層的東西。主流電影給人們看到的往往是好的一面，看不到貧困邊緣的大眾。以前我也出生在這樣貧苦的環境，所以我有機會拍電影，主題就想圍繞這些生活在低層的人物故事。
記：但“回歸三部曲”品質不是很整齊，像《去年煙花特別多》就感覺往商業電影上靠，你覺得三部曲中最弱的是不是這一部？
陳：《去》有商業的因素，因為我不想讓老闆虧錢，處理上商業些。的確，這部片子受到的批評最多，但也有人特別喜歡，電影不能完全取悅各種觀眾，它是個看不到底的深淵。
記：香港電影對政治、社會生活很冷淡，相對而言，在那樣的人文環境中，你的電影是否是因為題材的出位、另類而脫穎而出，你又是怎樣看待電影的現實教育意義的？
陳：我沒有把自己歸為另類，只是拍自己想拍的東西。香港電影不愛思考，但我的電影有思考性，不是一般觀眾會喜歡的，但我的電影不八股。因為人是不要教育的，是自覺的感悟，在電影裏我只是呈現生活的現實，我沒有去教育觀眾去做什麼，你有感受就有感受，沒有感受就算了，我沒有教育觀眾的責任，我沒有內地導演那麼痛苦、那麼累。我的電影反映社會的現象，是有力量的，是我個人的感受。所以，任何批評、任何讚賞對我來說都無所謂，對我不要有期待。
我在說人的成長
記：你的電影大多是青少年題材，尤其是《榴蓮飄飄》、《香港有個好萊塢》以及《人民公廁》這後三部。
陳：對，我和年輕人接觸多，我拍的電影主要是在講成長，我自覺不自覺在說人的成長。“回歸三部曲”涉及面很廣，但這三部完全是年輕人的故事。
記：你的電影往往用的是香港非專業新人，怎麼會用周迅、秦海璐這些內地演員？
陳：《榴蓮飄飄》的故事就是講內地的女孩子，香港女孩子演不來，首先語言不行，之前有深圳女孩子說想演，但真人演真事很難，我認識海璐時她還是學生。《香港有個好萊塢》需要周迅那樣的感覺。選演員，我更多的是考慮我的電影，像這次《人民公廁》，我選的冬冬還是新人，他出生在哈爾濱，小時候隨父母去了日本，前年到北京進修表演，又被一家南韓公司簽下，那時候我就認識他，他的國際身份就很適合《人民公廁》。
記：你的電影又是在怎樣的環境中成長的？
陳：20世紀60年代日本導演對我的影響很大。那時候我很年輕，像大島渚等日本新浪潮代表，他們的電影成本低，反映很多社會現象問題，我有點像他們的選擇。到現在，不管是非主流還是商業，好看的電影都是好電影，好看的電影都是成功的，我都欣賞，我跟一般觀眾沒有兩樣。
邊緣總會匯入主流
記：這幾年香港電影界也就出了一個你，換個角度，你是不是也成為一種藝術主流呢？
陳：藝術是條奔騰的長河，邊緣的前端總有一天會匯入主流，因為需要新的邊緣來推動。我的電影裏，如果起用明星來演，是不是主流和商業？我不好說。可能是一個風格更恰當。
記：《人民公廁》是一部DV電影，第一次不用膠片拍電影，感覺怎樣？
陳：我不喜歡DV，因為我成長在膠片電影的年代，但你不能否決科技的進步，進步得太快、太離譜，你沒辦法不用。
DV有它的方便，最終也可能取代電影的東西。《人民公廁》開始就決定用DV拍，開始我不習慣，很像電視，與膠片的質感不一樣，不舒服、不舒暢，停了半年沒拍。但慢慢發現它很方便，像在拍家庭記錄，我們在美國大街上拍，那種自由又很好。
記：你對經濟、科技發展中的中國三地電影怎麼看？
陳：台灣電影已經全面垮了，因為台灣的電視頻道太多。香港前幾年有低谷，但2001年香港電影全面起來了，無論是好萊塢電影，還是港產影片，票房很好。這幾年，內地很多領域都越來越好，惟一沒有起色的是電影工業。現在連泰國的電影都起來了，我們中國的電影觀眾應該更多地到電影院看電影，政府部門也應該有更好的機制，讓更多的電影，有分類地拿到電影院裏放，那時候，我想知道我陳果的，就不僅僅是看碟的內地人了。（記者 楊勁松）
來源：北方網
http://big5.cri.cn/gate/big5/gb.cri.cn/4221/2004/09/09/Zt602@295210.htm
I had a few ideas but i m having trouble remember, that's why you should always put them down. I need to get a good notebook or sketchbook.
Oh now I remember.
It seems I think of a lot of ideas while in the shower.
I was thinking about a story about African-American soldiers who came back from war and they felt mistreated even though they just fought with their lives for their country. They came back from war with a lot of their mates died or were wounded and found myself being second-class citizens despite of their sacrifices.
The story or the movie actually start with what happened to them after the war. They were on the street, just like any African-Americans or Black. They looked disgruntled, poor and unsatisfied. Then there came some flashback of the war. The flashbacks and other hints slowly reveal to the viewers that these were soldiers from war. Probably from WWI or WW2. They fought against Germans and were treated almost in equal in Europe, fighting with their white counterparts side by side and come back to a segregated society.
The big chunk of the middle part of the movie just before the end would be their time at Europe in the war. All out battle scenes, them fighting on the line, brothers, whites and black bounding, putting their lives on the line for one another. Maybe in the Pacific. I don't know. Need to do my research. It would be the glue. Then we see the atrocities of war. The wounded, the dead. Then we go back to their *present* as second-class citizen in USA.
I think it can be also made into a Aborigine version since there were Aborigines who fought for Australia in Europe.
Aboriginals' significant role in WWI revealed
By Danny Rose
13 April 2004 - The names of more than 400 Aboriginal soldiers who served in World War I have been uncovered -- and many were from Tasmania's Bass Strait islands.
Canberra-based historian David Huggonson, who has spent 20 years researching the Aboriginal contribution to Australia's military campaigns, announced his findings yesterday.
Mr Huggonson said he had uncovered the names of 428 Aboriginal soldiers who served in WWI.
Flinders and Cape Barren islands provided the highest number of early Aboriginal enlistmensts.
They were also mostly from the Maynard or Mansell families who, Mr Huggonson said, had gone on to produce some of Tasmania's most outspoken Aboriginal activists.
"Few Australians are aware that Aborigines have served in every war that Australia has fought in since the Boer War," Mr Huggonson said yesterday.
"There are 428 names so far just for World War I, from every state of Australia.
"But I was surprised to see quite a few Tasmanians from Cape Barren Island and Flinders Island."
He said the figure of 428 Aboriginal soldiers who fought in WWI was significant, as Australia's Aboriginal population at the time was estimated to be about 80,000.
Mr Huggonson said army regulations at the time had banned anyone not of European origin from enlisting.
"It was only in May 1917 that an army order allowed the enlistment of 'half-castes' due to the shortage of volunteers and the carnage on the Western Front," he said.
Mr Huggonson said the Tasmanian Aborigines who served were most likely the children of European sealers and Aboriginal women.
He said it was important that the role played by Australia's Aboriginal soldiers was recognised.
"Federation occurred in 1901 but Gallipoli solidified Australia's nationhood, rather than being separate states," Mr Huggonson said.
"It is important to note that Aboriginal soldiers played a role in that."
Mr Huggonson's research continues and he specifically wants to identify a soldier from Cape Barren Island contained in an old photograph.
Anyone with any information on Tasmania's Aboriginal soldiers can contact Mr Huggonson by mail at: 12 Shore Place, Weston, ACT, 2611.
Source:Hobart Mercuryrelated links :
- The Forgotten - To celebrate ANZAC day and pay tribute to the Indigenous men & women that have proudly served this nation ABC's Message Stick presented a twenty six minute documentary: The FORGOTTEN.
- Islander soldiers no longer our forgotten heroes
25 April 2003 - They were not citizens of Australia, nor did they have the right to vote. But in 1942, when enemy forces were on Australia's doorstep and the government looked to the Torres Strait for help, the islanders answered in their hundreds, leaving families and jobs to protect the country's vulnerable northern gateway. - Displaying the British Empire for Posterity
4 January 2003 - New York Times - As Britain's baby boomers came of age in the mid-1960's, the sun was setting on the British Empire. Instead of young Britons heading off to run the colonies as soldiers and administrators, Jamaicans, Indians, Pakistanis and other former colonial subjects began migrating in droves to Britain. It was now the turn of the ex-colonies to change the mother country. In a sense, the British Empire had come home to roost.
Australia's Aboriginals demand Anzac Day equality
2:16 PM Wednesday Apr 25, 2007
Eleven-year-old Daniel Roberts carries an Australian flag as he marches in Sydney this morning. Photo / Reuters
Australians marked their most sacred national holiday in memory of fallen soldiers on Wednesday as Aboriginal veterans broke with tradition to hold a rival service and demand equality for "coloured" warriors.
Thousands of Australians and New Zealanders rose before dawn for candle-lit Anzac Day services in memory of their war dead 92 years after troops, or "diggers", from both countries landed at Gallipoli in Turkey in April 1915, suffering catastrophic losses.
But as medal-wearing veterans turned out for parades in cities and the smallest hamlets, around 300 Aboriginal veterans staged a separate "Coloured Diggers March" in Sydney.
"Over there in the heat of the battle we were one, we were brothers," organiser Pastor Ray Minniecon said.
"When a lot of our men came back from the war, they came back under the white Australia policy and they did not get the benefits of land grants or war pensions. It's those kinds of issues that are stored in our hearts."
Around 500 Aboriginals fought in World War One and as many as 5,000 fought on World War Two battlefields in Europe and in Asia, according to official records.
But they received little recognition when they returned home under policies favouring white Australians, and were not even counted as citizens until 1968. Pastor Bill Simon, who was to lead a church service following the march, said for too long there was a military tradition to "send the little black fella out to do all the hard work".
Australia's peak veterans association, the 240,000-strong Returned and Services League (RSL), said Aborigines had been a treasured part of Australia's military since Gallipoli.
"It's sad that it's deemed to be necessary by the indigenous community to have a separate march," RSL president Bill Crews told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio.
The controversy did not mar regular Anzac Day services, with crowds of 30,000 turning up for dawn ceremonies in Sydney, Melbourne and the capital Canberra.
The eight-month British-led campaign involving Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) forces in Turkey was a disaster. Anzac Day was seared into the consciousness of both countries as a day on which war sacrifices would never be forgotten.
Services came a day after three Australian soldiers in Iraq were wounded by an insurgent roadside bomb.
Prime Minister John Howard said Australia's soldiers showed "mateship or larrikinism ... or sterling discipline when that was appropriate, and the willingness to risk all".
Howard urged Australians to visit the battlefields where their forebears died, with thousands expected at Gallipoli despite official warnings of a possible terrorist attack.
In New Zealand around 15,000 people gathered at Auckland's Cenotaph, while in Papua New Guinea, where Australians repelled Japanese invaders in a bloody 1942 battle, thousands held a service above rows of white tombstones.
In Afghanistan, Australian troops were given rare beers as their officers took up sentry duty as an Anzac Day treat.
Australia, a close US ally, has around 1500 soldiers deployed in Iraq, more than a thousand in East Timor and nearly 500 in Afghanistan helping battle Taleban insurgents.
- REUTERS
| Australian Aborigines Commemorate Anzac Day | |
Sydney 25 April 2007 |
Aboriginal war veterans have marched through Sydney to highlight the sacrifices made by indigenous service men and women. The march coincides with Australia's Anzac Day (4/25), which marks the World War One battle of Gallipoli (in Turkey) in 1915. Many Australians believe their national identity was forged from the courage and spirit displayed by their troops during that eight-month campaign. From Sydney, Phil Mercer has more.War veterans and supporters march through the streets of Sydney to commemorate Anzac Day
Indigenous Australians have a long history of military service. About 500 Aborigines served in World War I and as many as five thousand served during World War II.
They fought alongside other Australians, with the same conditions of service, and often encountered little prejudice on the battlefields.
It was a very different story on their return home. Aborigines faced racism and discrimination and were not allowed to become Australian citizens until 1948.
Warren Mundine from Australia's National Indigenous Council says indigenous veterans are under recognized.
"Prior to '67 many Aboriginals were not citizens of Australia which is a bizarre situation to be in and yet they had served. They've served in the First World War, they served in the Boer War, they served in the Second World War and many other conflicts," he said. "Vietnam. … Here they were going out and fighting for Australia then coming back home and living under the Aboriginal laws, the Aboriginal Acts where they were treated in an almost apartheid-type system. So these are the forgotten warriors of Australia. They're probably the greatest heroes of all."
The Anzac Day march Wednesday through the Aboriginal district of Redfern in Sydney attracted hundreds of people, and veterans with similar stories.
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| David Williams |
"Purely probably ignorance and the ignorance would deal with the fact that one you were black, two you weren't an Australian citizen and three, you know, who wanted to know you," he said. "I look back now in hindsight and I think, well, my goodness you never stood a chance as a black Australian."
The Anzacs refer to the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps, which suffered devastating casualties at the World War I battle of Gallipoli in Turkey in 1915.
It was the first time they'd fought under the flags of their newly independent countries.
Many Australians consider the ill-fated landing in Turkey as the day their young country, a former British penal colony, came of age.
Dawn services and marches have been held across Australia and New Zealand as well as among units of Australian forces serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2007-04/2007-04-25-voa7.cfm?moddate=2007-04-25
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